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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    I think that by looking at what we are taught by God we can determine that when going by what the different religions teach us and when they were written there is a big agreement in most that there is at least a God if not more, so God exists I believe.
    However I actually believe there is only one God, and we can choose to accept Him or not, the evidence is out there when we open our eyes, I have heard many scientists who went out to prove there was no God with no prejudgment and now they believe in God.
    Unfortunately many say there is no God, but when there is a tragedy they blame Him... Makes you wonder...

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    The way I see it, I can not know for certain if there is or is not a God. There are things that certainly could be his work, or could simply be a low probablity event occurring.

    I do see the utility in God, though, in the fact that in believing in him, many people find themselves able bear with the harshest of times. Additionally, God is a rallying cry for various movements across the globe. Sadly as it is, God also gives many the reason they unfortunately seem to need just to be decent people.

    At it's fundamental basics, God is representative of creativity, knowledge, and hope. These three things are not divine notions. They are basic expressions of humans, so it seems logical that whether there is a God or not, we would style one that fits our greatest features. In that regard, everyone has a little God in him, should he or she choose to express it. Cogito ergo sum Deus.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    @Soki - it's like shooting fish in a barrel

    Quote Originally Posted by Parsa44 View Post
    I believe in god incase god does really exist?

    My view on this is the "gain" "gain" situation.

    Of you say you believe in god you don't loose anything? And atleast if god does REALLY exist then "it" has no reason to punish you.
    also known as Pascal's Wager - and here's what's wrong with it...
    1 - it's a false dichotomy. it assumes either the catholic god or no god. it ignores the plethora of other gods that could potentially exist - many of whom are quite jealous
    2 - do you really think a god would be impressed with this "just-in-case" sort of psuedo-belief?
    3 - it plays on the idea that belief is a choice - it isn't. either a person is convinced by the evidence or they are not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Parsa44 View Post
    If god doesnt exist where did the universe start?
    (dont you dare say big bang because the material to "bang" had to come from somwhere in the first place)
    let's reverse this question - if god exists, where did he come from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chingola View Post
    I think that by looking at what we are taught by God we can determine that when going by what the different religions teach us and when they were written there is a big agreement in most that there is at least a God if not more, so God exists I believe.
    this is a logical fallacy - argument ad populum. the amount of people believing something does not in any way have any bearing on whether it is true or not.
    Quote Originally Posted by chingola View Post
    However I actually believe there is only one God, and we can choose to accept Him or not, the evidence is out there when we open our eyes,
    in that case, make your case and show the evidence
    Quote Originally Posted by chingola View Post
    I have heard many scientists who went out to prove there was no God with no prejudgment and now they believe in God.
    another logical fallacy - appeal to anonymous authority.
    Quote Originally Posted by chingola View Post
    Unfortunately many say there is no God, but when there is a tragedy they blame Him... Makes you wonder...
    not particularly relevant since i don't
    Last edited by truthguild; 02-26-2009 at 06:38 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    My mother, and grandmother have always been strong believers in god and have tried to raise me to that belief. However, god has never helped me nor have I seen evidence of him. The world was created by science and is maintained by science. However, I'm not an atheist nor am I a strong believer.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Well, There could be, there could not be, it depends on what people think!

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Hi everyone! I would just like to contribute to this debate. First of all I do not believe in the existence God, Gods, deities, devils, demons ect. Also I would like pose this question (regarding monotheism). Why would "God" want people worshiping him and going to the church, mosque, synagogue ect.

    I realize the repliers to this question will likely talk about how God created everything and such like that. I will pose a counter-point to the eventuality. Your mother and father created (biological mother and father) you. Should you not worship them as the creators of you.

    Also I recommend everyone to check this site out

    http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm

    Please when you reply offer some evidence to support what you think.
    Last edited by rmaslic; 02-28-2009 at 11:23 AM. Reason: Forgot to add something

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    hello every body,,,well i do believe in god,,,

    See we n whole world is in learning stage,thats means.....some years back,we never believed that there can be a computer who can do our job,,but we made it possible,,,Again some years back we never believed touch screen computing,but now its possible,,

    Let's take a small example,,,
    When i was in my childhood days learning Mathematics,My teacher taught me addtion,substaction n etc...means 2+2=4,,4-2=2,,
    But teacher told me that a big no. cannot be substarted from small no.,,that is impossible
    that means... 2-6 = impossible,,
    When i grew up,n studied higher classes,,then my teacher told me that if 2-6 = -4,at that time negative numbers were introduced,,,

    So wats moral story,,we havnt seen god,so we dont believe it...,but iam confident that one day we will prove that there is GOD..........

    One Day...........Its possible............So believe in god
    Last edited by 007dev; 03-16-2009 at 11:48 AM.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Think about this: It is impossible to rationalize belief in god without flawed logic or ungrounded assumptions. This makes me reach the conclusion that god may or may not exists, but who knows? and if you cannot reach a solid foundation to your belief, why believe in the first place? because of culture? because of tradition? because someone else tells you to?

    Remember that the people responsible for Christianity, Islam or Hinduism had as much evidence to go on as you do, so how can you come to the same conclusion as they did when you have such an incredibly much more vast knowledge on how the world works?
    Remember that these people believed in a flat earth, the earth-core was filled with dragons, and diseases was caused by evil spirits.

    A lot of people are also "convinced" by other peoples religious experiences, which is also is false evidence, since there are a lot of more reasonable explenations for religious experiences that does not require unfounded assumptions or flawed logic.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    I am open to the concept of religion, but I am also a smart man.

    (That should sum it up.)

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Alright I just wanted to put my word out on some of this debating. First off, I'm a believer in Christ. Now I've read the first couple pages of this thread and I've read a lot of stories about witnessing miracles and such. Then the opposing talking about Proof. Proof of these miracles and anything to back up these witnessed miracles. Another guy also wrote that any proof given you will not accept. A reply to that msg was "So you have given me zero proof".
    In this thread there were 3 miracles described (at least).
    1. Cousin raised from the dead. <--- You wanted medical records
    2. Lame people were healed instantly. <--- Someone wrote exactly how lame were they?
    3. Drug addicts and alcoholics had their addictions taken away. <--- Someone wrote how did God just take them away?

    Lets go back about the guys cousin being raised from the dead at a funeral. A reply to that story was "Any proof? medical records and such?". Well what if you were presented these medical records? What would you say then? "Those medical records were faked!", Right?
    If the lame person's leg was clearly shorter than their other leg and had to wear a shoe with a thicker sole to balance out the difference. And they were healed and could run and walk in normal shoes without any problems? What would you say? You would probably ask for a video or photos... Then when presented with some you would say they were photo shopped... CGI edited, right? Because no way could that be possible...
    If a guy has been addicted to heroin for 2 years and couldn't last a whole day without getting strung out and then was healed. And has been clean for months what would you say? Probably a ridiculous excuse to how it isn't possible.
    My point is that you ask for proof but if you are given proof you will reject it. Your eyes are closed and will be until you accept Christ. Only he can open your eyes and show you the way. He will show you amazing things you will never forget.
    God gave us a thirst for knowledge. A need to know the truth and the unexplainable. You are a perfect example since you are reading parts of this thread.
    Jesus is tugging at your heart and you can feel it. Thats why you are back on this thread reading these messages. Something deep inside you is wanting to learn more about Christ and to find out the truth. You can deny it (and I'm almost positive you will) but in the back of your head you still know its true. That heavy sinking feeling inside you right now is Jesus and he wants you to step out, to take his hand, to walk with him. All you need to do is say "Yes".

    "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you."
    - Matthew 7:7

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